Did Mary Kilcup attend Abington MM ?

2007-11-13T23:16:00.000-08:00

In looking for my Morgans, I ran across this Roberts family who seemed to have no place which drove me crazy.
Thanks to recent transcriptions of Suzanne Johnston and Susan Winters, I could start to connect family.
Thanks Suzanne and Susan !

Mary KILCUP was supposedly born 1680 in Abington, Pa was probably the sister of Elizabeth KILCUP who married Thomas Howell on 29 JAN 1699/00 in Philadelphia MM, Philadelphia, Pa ¹ whose son was John Howell born b: 9 MAR 1701/02 in Philadelphia MM , Pa. Was Thomas Howell born 1 May 1671 ? -extracted birth from a Welsh Bible by Cornelia Warner. These Kilcup girls may have been related to the Boston family. There is a Roger Kilcup who had a daughter Elizabeth born b: 10 Aug 1687 in Boston, Ma. but his Mary b: 5 July 1700 in Boston, Ma. was born too late to be this Mary. John Roberts moved to Abington where a son John Roberts was born. Mary may have died and John may have remarried, having some small children with him. See explanation below.

Was John Roberts the brother of Thomas Roberts? who married Martha GOVE b: 4 MAY 1683 in Philadelphia MM 4 NOV 1704 in Philadelphia MM. I ask because they were contemporaries attending the same Meeting in 1704. Is this the same man one year later- Thomas Roberts is said to have come from Wales in December, 1699, with William Penn in the ship Canterbury. He settled in Bristol Twp., Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. He was a stone mason and helped construct the Friends Meeting House at Germantown. His marriage to Eleanor Potts was noticed in the Abington MM minutes of 26 Jan 1705. He purchased 200 acres in Bristol Twp. in 1713. He died 1 Aug 1756

Mary Kilcup of Abington married John ROBERTS b: 1680 in Wales.

Marriage 1 Mary KILCUP

Married: 10 JUL 1702 in Philadelphia MM, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania ¹

Children

Aquilla ROBERTS died 21 JAN 1730/31 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania ²
Daniel ROBERTS died 13 JUN 1735 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania
Samuel ROBERTS died 25 JUN 1736 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania
Margaret ROBERTS b: 10 JUN 1703 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania
Elizabeth ROBERTS b: 28 OCT 1705 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania
John ROBERTS b: 1714 in Abington, Pennsylvania m. Barbara SHOEMAKER b: 1719 in Cheltenham, Pennsylvania Child Issac ROBERTS b: 8 Oct 1741 in Oxford Twp, Pennsylvania

Aquilla ROBERTS b: 1733 died 24 JUL 1762 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania ¹ married Mary Children-
1. George ROBERTS died young 30 NOV 1759 in Philadelphia MM
2. Mary ROBERTS b: 10 JAN 1756 in Philadelphia MM , Pennsylvania
3. Ann ROBERTS b: 13 SEP 1759 in Philadelphia MM , Pa died age 24 on 23 SEP 1784 in Philadelphia MM
4. Aquilla ROBERTS b: 1761 died age 1

This next John Roberts looks like the same man because the children in the following marriage follow a natural sequence to the first set above and no names are repeated. John Roberts b: 11 SEP 1681 in Penllyn, Camarus, Wales emigrated with his parents from Wales. He settled at first in Oxford Township, Philadelphia County (now part of the city of Philadelphia), where he was living at the time of his marriage; but in 1711, he was living in Montgomery township (Abington?) , Philadelphia county (now in Montgomery County), when he signed a petition for the legal settling of the route of a road to the mills of Pennypack. His father was Robert Cadwalader :

Came to America about 1698, settling in Gwynedd, Pa. They came from Bala, in Merionethshire. They may have been on the ship "ROBERT and ELIZABETH". When they settled in America, they bought land from Robert John about 1710 (140 acres). His son Cadwalader Roberts was a poet whose daughter Elizabeth married Daniel Morgan b: 1691 in Moyamensing, PA son of Edward Morgan.

¹married 1 Elizabeth EDWARD

Married: 7 JUN 1706

Elizabeth ROBERTS b: 15 JUN 1707 married John Blair and John Jones
Mordecai ROBERTS b: 22 JAN 1709
Jane ROBERTS
John ROBERTS b: 28 MAY 1714 in Abington, Pennsylvania married Jane HANK b 13 MAR 1736 ¹

Dear Sir:
I have in my possession the family history of my Grandmother. I looked at your entry because the name Robert Cadwalader(settled in 1698) is the first in the information I received from her. As it turns out, if my information is correct, Elizabeth in my records matches the Elizabeth in your records.
her date of birth was 9-21-1718
husband Daniel Morgan son of Edward
both she and her husband were ministers in the Society of Friends. In 1744-46, in the company with Susanna Morris, she visited most of the meetings in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. In 1754 she visited Barbadoes and Tortola. She died 1777. Their children were Ben, M. Sarah Davis, Ruth, M, Nathan, Moses Peters.

This info is on part of a page that I have. I have several pages. I am happy to help complete yours if you wish.
Please let me know.
LisaMarie P. lmp7900@aol.com
Children

Benjamin Morgan b: 18 NOV 1719
Ruth Morgan b: 15 MAY 1721
Sarah Davis
Nathan Morgan
Moses Peters Morgan

Sources: Suzanne Johnston

Title: Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. II by Wm. Wade Hinshaw
Author: Wm. Wade Hinshaw, Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. II
Repository:
Media: Book
Page: 573
Text: Mary, Phila, Pa. md. John Roberts, Phila, Pa. at Phila. MH.
Title: Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. II by Wm. Wade Hinshaw
Author: Wm. Wade Hinshaw, Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. II
Repository: Media: Book
Page: 573
Text: Mary, Phila, Pa. md. John Roberts, Phila, Pa. at Phila. MH.
Death of Aquilla -Wm. Wade Hinshaw, Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. 2, pg. 413 Phila MM Records;
Wm. Wade Hinshaw, Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. 2, pg. 413 Phila MM Records;
Wm. Wade Hinshaw, Ency. of Amer. Quaker Gen. Vol. 2, pg. 414 Phila MM Records;
Title: Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. II
Page: 556, 573
Text: Wm. Wade Hinshaw; Phila MM Records; Leave to marry;
Abbrev: IGI - International Genealogical Index

John Roberts and Mary Kilcup of Abington

Did Mary Kilcup attend Abington MM ?